I am 40 years-old. Im on parole. I was born in
East Los Angeles in the 60s. My older brother was what
youd call a cholo and from a young age, I knew I
wanted to be like that. I wanted to be a thug.
MOVIN ON UP
I remember my first stabbing. I remember the first
time I got stabbed. I been stabbed lots of times. I
got one in the head with a hunting knife, one in my
shoulder, three around my heart, got my right hand opened
up, my legs, my elbow, I got shot in the head in the
joint with a shotgun, I got cracked too.
Back in the early 70s it was knives and chains, bats
and crowbars, all that good stuff. I wasnt really
much of a fighter so whatever I had within arms
reach I was going to use. It didnt matter whether
it was hedge clippers, a knife, a screwdriver or even
a pencil, I was going to use it.
GETTIN ON DOWN
They started looking for me for robberies and assaults
when I was a teenager. Mostly we were robbing Taco Bells,
liquor stores and Jack In The Boxes. If you look at
my record itll show everything from Assault with
a Deadly Weapon to Kidnapping, Robbery, Grand Theft
Auto, Battery different things like that. I did
Youth Authority time for two years, went back on a violation,
beat up a cop in there and got sent to the joint. They
threw me out of YA and sent me to mens prison.
I ended up doing two years on a six-month violation.
I was out in 49 days doing every form of drug you could
think of. Every day I was beating somebody up or robbing
or doing both. I was at a party once and I ended up
fighting with everyone at the party, probably about
twenty dudes. I was going off. I was stabbing people
in the middle of the day on main streets. Wasnt
long before I was back in a cell.
I got out of Quentin in 87 and what ends up happening
is I start slinging a little cocaine to make ends meet.
I end up getting over my head. A friend of mine kept
jamming me about robbing banks and Id tell him
I wasnt into it. This went on for about two or
three months until finally I told him, "Why dont
you just go? You dont need me." He told me,
"You know theres only one dude I trust enough,
only one dude I know wholl be there."
So one day I seen him and he asked me again and I looked
and I said aight cuz I needed to pay my coke debts.
Our trip was to do it away from where we lived, so we
went far away, still in LA but not around my neighborhood.
Its funny because we were jittery.
Its considered a step up from stealing cars or
those little things to robbing banks. We were lucky
if we got two hundred dollars from a Taco Bell. With
banks, you could come out with up to eight thousand
apiece without tripping on takeovers or the safe or
anything. Not bad for two minutes work.
DOG DAY AFTERNOON
The first one, its almost like they knew we were
rookies. They gave us a piece of wood. We got what looked
like a stack about three inches thick of one hundreds,
but it turned out all to be ones with a hundred on top
and bottom. They just handed us any old thing. Homeboy
was so mad he wanted to go back and shoot everybody
for not taking us seriously. I just looked at him and
said, "The place got to be crawling with cops by
now." "Fuck that, were going to kill
em." Eventually he cooled out but that first
jobs really what got us going.
Usually one would go in while the other guy would be
out in the car and wed take turns. Basically wed
just approach a teller and say, "This is a robbery,
start with your twenties and your hundreds, if you hand
me a dye-pack Im coming over the counter."
You estimate in your head how much time you got, you
never want to be in there more than two or three minutes,
and you go through as many tellers as you can, just
down the line until you feel its time and then
bam, you split.
We only had one rule and my homeboys the one
who told me this, he said, "If you dont feel
good about it, if it feels funny, were not going
to do it." So before every bank, wed pull
up: "How you feel? Feel funny? Does it feel like
somethings wrong?" If it felt wrong, we wouldnt
hit that bank, wed go to another one. After two
or three places if it still felt like that, you know
what, we wouldnt rob a bank that day. As a result,
nobody ever got caught coming out or in a bank.
A WORLD OF CHOICE
I cant even think how many we did in six months.
To tell you the truth, it was all just fun. It becomes
a habit. The thing that did us in was these homeboys
who would wake up and not want to go out somewhere,
they started hitting banks right in the neighborhood.
And that was the downfall, because after that the cops
started staking out a certain pad where everybody was
hanging out.
They ended up pulling some homeboys over and me with
them cuz I was in the car. The other two were wanted
for bank robberies, but the cops looked at me kind of
funny cuz the way I looked. Here I am coming from this
house with these guys and yet they had no warrant out
for me. Once the cops knew who I was and recognized
me they started taking pictures around, trying to nail
me for nine robberies. Finally two tellers recognized
me and I got sent up on hard time.
It was just a world of choice so we chose it and we
did it. There were some of us who were heavier and some
of us who werent. I mean, one of my homeboys turned
out to be a fucking serial rapist. He was raping and
killing women and we had no idea about it. Who knows
what turned him into that.
I went in at 28 and got out when I was 38. When I got
out this last time, I was ready. I dont ever want
to go back. Im worried because theres times,
little things throughout the days
but as long
as Im in self-defense and I dont go out
and stab a motherfucker a hundred times or start cutting
off heads and shit, I think Ill be all right.
I think I can control that.
BY CHRIS MUNIZ AND "INDIO" vice
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